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Season 5 · Episode 10

Tish & Snooky

The sisters behind Manic Panic · Blondie's first backing singers · the Sic F*cks

Released 20 Aug 2025 · 52:15 as a podcast · AFTERPARTY launched 10 Nov 2026

131 references · 349 mentions

Tish & Snooky on singing in the first Blondie, opening Manic Panic on St. Marks Place in 1977, the Sic F*cks and the night the Mudd Club opened.

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Mood of the episode

On screen

Tish & Snooky's on-camera look (S05E10)

On camera
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  • electric blue#2E5FD8
  • leopard tan#A47A4F
  • neon pink#FF6FA8

Pink hair, leopard lace and blazer / blue hair, choker and studded black

Side by side at the Manic Panic HQ under a pink neon sign: one with bright pink hair, pink pick earrings, leopard lace top and black blazer; the other with electric-blue hair, black velvet choker, silver necklaces and a studded black top

In the stories

Electric blue Manic Panic hair

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Electric blue hair

Fenton's first dye job, the colour of the sisters' trickiest early shade

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  • Punk↗Music

    The sisters were in it from the very beginning, from glam to punk

    Heard as “punk”

    14
    in this episode
    70 across all
  • Manic Panic↗Organisation

    The first punk boutique in America, opened on St. Marks Place on 7 July 1977 - later the semi-permanent hair-dye brand the sisters built up without investors from $250 each

    Heard as “manic panic / manika / many panicked / panic music”

    14
    in this episode
    16 across all
  • Guests: the Bellomo sisters from the Bronx - backing singers in the first Blondie, the Sic F*cks, and since 1977 Manic Panic, the shop on St. Marks Place that became the hair-dye brand

    Heard as “scythian / snoky / snook / stooky / strookie / tish / titian”

    14
    in this episode
    15 across all
  • The sisters' own band, in nuns' habits; at first they kept the name from their mother

    Heard as “16th broadcast / sick bucks / sick fox / sick fuck / sick, folks / sick. fox / six bucks / six flux / six fucks”

    13
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • The shop itself: everyone let in, the hosts rehearsing Proud Mary, a 50-cent badge as some days' takings, the first customer who needed a shopping bag

    Heard as “the shop / the store / your shop”

    12
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • 10
    in this episode
    282 across all
  • England↗Location

    The sisters flew over with partner Gina from 1977, sold vintage sunglasses and biker rings and brought back hair dye not sold in the US

    Heard as “england / uk”

    10
    in this episode
    18 across all
  • The sisters' book: their story in their own words, other people's memories, hair-colour tutorials and a list of celebrity clients; RuPaul wrote the intro

    Heard as “in the book / living in color / the book / your book”

    9
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Shopped for vintage at the store when she was still blonde, in Blue Angel days; the sisters say her leap into hair colour helped launch her career and theirs

    Heard as “cindy / lauper”

    9
    in this episode
    12 across all
  • Saw the sisters in a revue and invited them to Blondie rehearsals; took them thrift shopping in her 69 Camaro and showed them a warehouse of unworn vintage shoes

    Heard as “debbie”

    8
    in this episode
    31 across all
  • Electric blue Manic Panic hairMood

    Fenton's first dye job, the colour of the sisters' trickiest early shade

    FashionElectric blue hair

    Heard as “blue hair / blue like / blue was / electric blue”

    7
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • With Gorilla Rose he got Debbie and Chris to come and see the sisters - which is how they joined Blondie

    Heard as “floralyn / tomato”

    6
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • Cotton candy pink and pastelsMood

    James wanted cotton candy pink in 84 when it didn't exist - you mixed Manic Panic with conditioner; today Pastelizer does it

    FashionCotton candy pink hair

    Heard as “cotton candy / pastel”

    6
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • QuaaludesMood

    James admits Quaalude envy - he never tried one

    Heard as “kralu / loots / playload / quaalude / wayludes”

    6
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Co-host; dyed his hair electric blue with Manic Panic as a student at Oxford, then had to dye it back black as an extra in Heaven's Gate

    Heard as “fabian / fenton”

    5
    in this episode
    113 across all
  • Co-host and co-founder of World of Wonder; one of the Fabulous Pop Tarts, with the sisters on backing vocals

    Heard as “barredo / randy”

    5
    in this episode
    142 across all
  • The sisters sang backing vocals in the early band; they say they were a little jealous when it made it without them, but got over it fast

    Heard as “blondie / bondi”

    5
    in this episode
    18 across all
  • GinaPersonPrivate person

    The third partner at the start of Manic Panic; she left within the first year

    Heard as “gina”

    5
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • New York↗Location

    The sisters as free-spirited New Yorkers singing in dives in 1977 - and still singing in dives

    Heard as “new york”

    5
    in this episode
    558 across all
  • Thrift runs with Debbie; the punk bashers came from Long Island or Jersey

    Heard as “jersey”

    5
    in this episode
    23 across all
  • The New Jersey Nightingales lookMood

    Big blonde number-one bouffant wigs, Nerf footballs cut in half for torpedo bras, tight dresses or polyester lounge-act jumpsuits from a thrift store

    FashionBlonde bouffant wigs, torpedo bras, polyester jumpsuits

    Heard as “bouffant / jumpsuit / torpedo”

    5
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Bronx↗Location

    Where the sisters grew up and still lived with their mother when the shop opened, commuting in

    Heard as “bronch / bronx”

    5
    in this episode
    11 across all
  • Mary Kay↗Organisation

    James: the sisters are the Mary Kays of punk

    Heard as “mary k”

    5
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Club Kids↗Organisation

    Every club kid came into the store and got the 20 percent rock-star discount; James calls the sisters their godmothers

    Heard as “club kid / club kits”

    5
    in this episode
    139 across all
  • Punk pointy stilettos, Beatle boots and sharkskinMood

    What Manic Panic sold to the punks: pointy stilettos, 60s Beatle boots and sharkskin suits

    FashionPointy stilettos, Beatle boots, sharkskin suits

    Heard as “beetle boots / shark / stiletto”

    4
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Fred Rothbell-Mista↗PersonPartly confirmed

    Promoter who put the sisters in his lounge act as his New Jersey Nightingales; ran the upstairs at the Limelight and helped with Downtown Dukes and Divas

    Heard as “elmista / fred / mista / rocco”

    4
    in this episode
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  • Bronx Psychiatric Center↗LocationPartly confirmed

    Where the sisters' mother worked; they say the name Manic Panic came from there

    Heard as “psychiatric”

    4
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Snooky's super-short Mudd Club dressMood

    Homemade for opening night; after the fight she kept pulling it down, then put it on the mannequin and sold it the next week

    FashionHomemade super-short dress

    Heard as “dress down / super short”

    4
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Yippies↗Organisation

    Their headquarters on Bleecker housed Studio 10

    Heard as “yippee / yippie”

    4
    in this episode
    5 across all
  • The New Jersey Nightingales↗EventPartly confirmed

    Fred Rothbell-Mista's lounge act with the sisters as backing singers in blonde bouffant wigs and thrift-store polyester jumpsuits; booked in Atlantic City in 1984

    Heard as “night in galen / night in gales / nightingale”

    3
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • 3
    in this episode
    82 across all
  • Performed with the Nightingales

    Heard as “tanuta / tennuta”

    3
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Their mother later did art therapy there; a student told her about the Sic F*cks - maybe Keith Haring, they joke

    Heard as “visual arts”

    3
    in this episode
    10 across all
  • Opening night: Snooky remembers a street fight with punk bashers outside on White Street that ended with her knocked down

    Heard as “mud club / mud cob”

    3
    in this episode
    170 across all
  • Punk bashing↗EventPartly confirmed

    Suburban kids coming into town to beat up punks, as the sisters remember it

    Heard as “beat up punks / beat up the punks / punk bashing”

    3
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Became the haunt of almost everyone; Studio 10 was down the block

    Heard as “c. b. g. b / cbgb”

    3
    in this episode
    24 across all
  • Studio 10↗ClubPartly confirmed

    Hangout in the Yippie building on Bleecker, down the block from CBGB, with a sign: crash for three days, then move on - no death drugs

    Heard as “e of ten / stu / studio 10”

    3
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 2 more cards
  • TalkShopLive↗Organisation

    Where the sisters say the book is easiest to get

    Heard as “talk shop”

    3
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Downtown Dukes and Divas↗EventPartly confirmed

    Gabriel Rotello's show: the sisters rehearsed Proud Mary in the shop with the hosts, in Tina Turner wigs and sequinned dresses

    Heard as “dukes and divas”

    2
    in this episode
    4 across all
  • Ran Downtown Dukes and Divas

    Heard as “rotel”

    2
    in this episode
    7 across all
  • Filmed the Downtown Dukes and Divas Proud Mary and the Club 1018 Christmas show - on YouTube today

    Heard as “nelson”

    2
    in this episode
    31 across all
  • Proud Mary in Tina Turner wigsMood

    The sisters and the hosts in Tina Turner wigs and sequinned dresses for Downtown Dukes and Divas

    FashionTina Turner wigs and sequinned dresses

    Heard as “sequined / tina turner wig”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Where they came from before punk

    Heard as “glam”

    2
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • Gorilla Rose↗PersonPartly confirmed

    With Tomata du Plenty, invited Debbie and Chris to see the sisters' revue

    Heard as “gorilla / guerrilla”

    2
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • Came with Debbie to see the sisters and invited them to Blondie rehearsals

    Heard as “chris and debbie / debbie and chris”

    2
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • Debbie's 69 Camaro thrift runsMood

    Thrift shopping in New Jersey in Debbie's 1969 Camaro

    FashionThrift-store finds

    Heard as “camaro”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Reade Street shoe warehouse↗LocationPartly confirmed

    Debbie's tip: a place full of unworn vintage shoes from the 20s to the 60s - "dying and going to shoe heaven"; they still keep some

    FashionUnworn vintage shoes, 1920s-60s

    Heard as “read street / reed street”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Ramones lighting man who turned the sisters on to a place on 14th Street full of 50s and 60s sharkskin suits with the tags on

    Heard as “arturo”

    2
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 2 more cards
  • Bought sharkskin at the 14th Street place; partner Gina gave him a peace-sign tie he said he'd never wear - he wore it that night

    Heard as “costello”

    2
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • Billy Idol's guitarist, one of the Nightingales' guests

    Heard as “steve stevens”

    2
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • Matt Dillon↗PersonPartly confirmed

    In the audience at the Nightingales - Fred always packed the room

    Heard as “dillon / dylan”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • The X-Ray Spex singer came to the shop right at the start

    Heard as “skye's diary / x-ray spec”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • The store opened on 7/7/77 and the press covered it straight away - TV, magazines, fanzines

    Heard as “7777 / july 7”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • The Son of Sam T-shirtMood

    Snooky's handmade shirts: the killer's letter written front and back, blood stains, a cigarette-burn bullet hole; she says Bob Gruen bought the original

    FashionHandmade Son of Sam T-shirt

    Heard as “son of sam”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • A student at Visual Arts - the sisters joke he may be the one who told their mother about the band

    Heard as “herring / perry”

    2
    in this episode
    71 across all
  • Same joke - they turn up everywhere, like Forrest Gump

    Heard as “force gum”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Ravers brought hair colour back in the 90s

    Heard as “raver”

    2
    in this episode
    5 across all
  • A Kardashian with pink hair sent everyone after cotton candy pink; Kim is on the book's client list

    Heard as “kardashian”

    2
    in this episode
    5 across all
  • Shrapnel↗MusicPartly confirmed

    Band who ran down White Street to help when punk bashers started the fight

    Heard as “shrapnel”

    2
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • The sisters went after Max's, brought there by Jayne County

    Heard as “82 club / eighty two club”

    2
    in this episode
    4 across all
  • Home of the Yippie building

    Heard as “bleaker”

    2
    in this episode
    8 across all
  • A fan of the Sic F*cks who came by with Dan Aykroyd, parking the Bluesmobile out front; he once introduced the band on stage

    Heard as “belushi”

    2
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • Hurrah↗ClubPartly confirmed

    Possibly where Belushi introduced the Sic F*cks - the sisters aren't sure

    Heard as “hurrah”

    2
    in this episode
    9 across all
  • Oxford↗Location

    Fenton's first Manic Panic, as a student there, around 1980

    Heard as “oxford”

    1
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • Fenton had to dye his blue hair back to black to be an extra in it - "one of the biggest bombs"

    Heard as “heaven's gate”

    1
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • The number the sisters and the hosts did at Downtown Dukes and Divas

    Heard as “proud mary”

    1
    in this episode
    2 across all
  • Fenton and Randy's band - the sisters sang backing vocals on lots of their tracks

    Heard as “pop-tart”

    1
    in this episode
    16 across all
  • YouTube↗Organisation

    Where Nelson Sullivan's tapes of the Proud Mary night and the Club 1018 show can be watched

    Heard as “youtube”

    1
    in this episode
    17 across all
  • Starbooty (RuPaul)↗MusicPartly confirmed

    The original album - the sisters sing the "Starbooty" hook

    Heard as “star booty”

    1
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • RuPaul↗Person

    Wrote the intro to the sisters' book; Tish and Snooky are the voices on the original Starbooty album

    Heard as “rue”

    1
    in this episode
    127 across all
  • Where Manic Panic opened in 1977 - the only shop on the block, they say, that let everybody in

    Heard as “saint mark”

    1
    in this episode
    4 across all
  • Where the sisters sang in a wacky vaudeville-style revue, one act after another

    Heard as “bauer lane”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Les Ballets Trockadero↗OrganisationPartly confirmed

    Some of the Trockadero performers were in the same revue

    Heard as “truckadero”

    1
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • Arturo Vega did their lighting

    Heard as “ramones”

    1
    in this episode
    10 across all
  • The place Arturo Vega found, full of 50s and 60s sharkskin suits with the tags still on

    FashionDeadstock sharkskin suits

    Heard as “fourteenth street”

    1
    in this episode
    14 across all
  • Got the male lounge-act jumpsuit from the Nightingales' thrift find - the sisters hope he still has it

    Heard as “muster”

    1
    in this episode
    75 across all
  • Johnny Thunders↗PersonPartly confirmed

    Performed with the Nightingales

    Heard as “johnny thunder”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Steve Stevens was his guitarist

    Heard as “billie hayes”

    1
    in this episode
    5 across all
  • Where the Nightingales got booked in 1984 - still under-rehearsed, the sisters say

    Heard as “atlantic city”

    1
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 1 more card
  • One of the first punks through the shop door

    Heard as “richard hill”

    1
    in this episode
    2 across all
  • Hawaii↗Location

    Fans wrote from Hawaii and all over to order a studded belt by post

    Heard as “hawaii”

    1
    in this episode
    2 across all
  • James recalls Ann telling them she saw a defaced shop sign on her first trip to New York and knew she was home

    Heard as “magnus”

    1
    in this episode
    29 across all
  • Bought the original Son of Sam T-shirt, Snooky says

    Heard as “gruen”

    1
    in this episode
    2 across all
  • Nuns for the Sic F*cksMood

    The band dressed up as nuns

    FashionNuns' habits

    Heard as “nuns”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Fenton: Tish and Snooky pop up in everybody's story, like Zelig

    Heard as “zellig”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • What getting stopped at customs with shoes stuffed with hair dye felt like

    Heard as “midnight express”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Orange hair - the colour of the 70s, James says

    Heard as “rotten”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Told Snooky at a party that he was opening a club called the Mudd Club

    Heard as “steve moss”

    1
    in this episode
    40 across all
  • Where the punk bashers came from, maybe

    Heard as “long island”

    1
    in this episode
    7 across all
  • White Street↗LocationPartly confirmed

    Where the punk-bashing fight broke out on the Mudd Club's opening night

    Heard as “white street”

    1
    in this episode
    6 across all
  • 1
    in this episode
    20 across all
  • 1
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • One University Place↗LocationPartly confirmed

    A bit more highfalutin than the punk bars

    Heard as “university place”

    1
    in this episode
    6 across all
  • Early-80s colour heads, with Cyndi Lauper

    Heard as “kaja gugu”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Part of the early-80s hair-colour boom

    Heard as “boy george”

    1
    in this episode
    46 across all
  • The early-90s comeback of coloured hair, with grunge and the ravers

    Heard as “riot girl”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Early 90s, a big time for the brand again

    Heard as “grunge”

    1
    in this episode
    12 across all
  • The kind of cool, music-minded buyer the sisters could picture for their brand

    Heard as “branson”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • Came in with John Belushi

    Heard as “aykroyd”

    1
    in this episode
    2 across all
  • Argentina↗Location

    Where the sisters last saw Blondie play; the band put them and 13 relatives on the list

    Heard as “argentina”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • The hosts and sisters miss him - gone so young

    Heard as “john sex”

    1
    in this episode
    28 across all
  • As the sisters tell it, his first booking as a promoter was Tish and Snooky at Club 1018 for a Christmas show

    Heard as “alec”

    1
    in this episode
    242 across all
  • Club 1018↗ClubPartly confirmed

    The sisters' Christmas show there, as Michael Alig's first booking

    Heard as “1018”

    1
    in this episode
    only counted here · named on 3 more cards
  • ClancyPersonPrivate person

    A friend whose college-party story about Quaaludes gets told on the show

    Heard as “clancy”

    1
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “kate pearson”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “applegate”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “lovato”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “dua lipa”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “cardi”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “heidi klum”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “hilary duff”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “kelly ripa”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “kylie jenner”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “lady gaga”

    1
    in this episode
    6 across all
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “gigi hadid”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “evan rachel wood”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “nick jonas”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “minaj”

    1
    in this episode
    2 across all
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “lupita”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “juliet lewis”

    1
    in this episode
    3 across all
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “lily collins”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “rebel wilson”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “raven simone”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “rita ora”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “ruby rose”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “vanessa hutchins”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On the book's list of celebrity clients

    Heard as “zane malik”

    1
    in this episode
    this episode only
  • On camera

    Side by side at the Manic Panic HQ under a pink neon sign: one with bright pink hair, pink pick earrings, leopard lace top and black blazer; the other with electric-blue hair, black velvet choker, silver necklaces and a studded black top

    FashionPink hair, leopard lace and blazer / blue hair, choker and studded black

    Heard as “On camera”

    —
    in this episode
  • On camera

    Sheer pale-pink ruffled blouse and red rectangular glasses, in front of his bookcase and the Buster Crabbe poster

    FashionPale-pink ruffle blouse, red glasses

    Heard as “On camera”

    —
    in this episode
  • On camera

    Grey cardigan over a navy-and-white Breton striped T-shirt, thin wire glasses, in front of sunflower wallpaper and a Brillo box

    FashionGrey cardigan, Breton stripes

    Heard as “On camera”

    —
    in this episode
  • On camera

    Tan Carhartt cap, round dark glasses and a green-and-rust plaid flannel shirt, in front of a painted street scene and his Emmy

    FashionCarhartt cap, plaid flannel

    Heard as “On camera”

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    in this episode

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